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[notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: v5.4 RC - Theme Selector
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By: aathell

Theme selector is a fantastic feature! Woohoo!

Now, something many others may not know or remember being announced in the forums
almost a year ago is the 'Textmate Themes for Notepad++' converter by Fabio
Nagao.

The link for the converter can be found in the original thread at:
https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=5096962


Many TextMate themes can be found at:
http://wiki.macromates.com/Themes/UserSubmittedThemes

Give this feature a try!!


almostautoamted

ps - the themes are _not_ applied to styles for external lexers.

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By: yniq

Hi Don,

"Global override" appears twice in "Vibrant Ink.xml" and not at all in "Ruby
Blue.xml"
Also, "Ruby Blue.xml" seems much shorter than the others (lacking many
languages).

And what about a full changelog? this way people can concentrate on the changes
and test them better :)

Thanks for the hard work!

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By: yniq

Hi again Don, did you see there's a new scintilla release - 1.78?

http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaHistory.html



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By: leeoniya2

i was just about to make a separate thread announcing this : )

though i see that we're at 5.4RC is at v1.77 finally, which is great news.

Leon

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2009-04-28 04:47:11 UTC
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By: aathell

Gosh... 1.78 was only announced just over an hour ago. It has taken this long
to get N++ up to 1.77 so let us rejoice in the good news for just a while.

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By: janschreiber

Great work, thanks guys! AFAIK, the currently used scintilla can draw indentation
guides in completely empty lines (without leading spaces/tabs), like in this
mock-up: Loading Image...
Is there a hidden setting that would allow me to enable this behavior in N++?

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By: randombystander

janschreiber,
View - "Show White Space and TAB" and the two below should do what you want.

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By: donho

I just saw it.
There are a lot of interesting features and new lexers in v1.78.

However, Notepad++ v5.4 and v5.4.X will stick with v1.77.
v1.78 will be included in v5.5 and upper version.

Don

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By: xm1

Great news!

Any chance for an updated English.xml translation file for us translators?

There are so many changes and I see, that some (new menu aggregator items like
Edit->Indent) has the resource ID == 0.

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By: cchris

Very nice job overall! (see below :-) )

Compact menus: just what I was looking for! If you could apply the same treatment
to TextFX -> Convert, Edit and Viz, that would be even better.

Themes are a very nice idea. However, if you change a color in one theme, for
some language*style element pair,
like C++ * COMMENT,
and then switch to another theme, if only to experiment, then
- your change does not stick in the new theme - expected, let's say
- the change is lost when rolling back to previous theme - not expected.

The integration of the Change Markers Plugin is an excellent idea so far.

Tab DnD: I wonder if the following is expected. Given notice, it is not bad,
actually:
1/ drag a tab outside N++. Another instance opens, with only that document.
Great.
2/ Drag that other tab back into initial document. The second instance then
close with a ding.wav sound. Some may expect it to remain empty, as other docs
might be opened in it.
Otherwise, it is a nice feature.

Note that I have never played with "Go to other instance" when there are 3 or
more opened already.

More input later.

CChris

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By: aathell

Christian,

"Compact menus: just what I was looking for! If you could apply the same treatment
to TextFX -> Convert, Edit and Viz, that would be even better."

This will require support for cascading menus for plugins. Which, when implemented,
will be nice indeed!


"Themes are a very nice idea. However, if you change a color in one theme, for
some language*style element pair,
like C++ * COMMENT,
and then switch to another theme, if only to experiment, then
- your change does not stick in the new theme - expected, let's say
- the change is lost when rolling back to previous theme - not expected."

When you make a change to a theme and then switch to a different theme are you
_not_ getting a pop-up dialog informing you that unsaved changes will be
discarded?

Can anyone else confirm that this pop-up is _not_ being displayed, because I
sure see it.


almostautomated

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2009-04-28 15:36:10 UTC
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When you make a change to a theme and then switch to a
different theme are you _not_ getting a pop-up dialog
informing you that unsaved changes will be discarded?
I did get a message box to ask me if I want to save settings.

Don

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By: janschreiber

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I meant a continuous indent guide that is not
interrupted by empty lines.

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2009-04-28 17:27:18 UTC
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By: cchris

I must have done something wrong when I copied the 5.4 files, because now I
get the dialog, and could save the change. When I wrote my post I sure didn't
get it, and the change was lost.

So it's a good feature after all :-)

Could be the same sort of mix-up that caused alt-f5 to fail and then work
again.

CChris
PS: I'm not sure I'm able to link a stock pcre.dll with N++ to process regular
expression in a "reasonable" way, ie with ? | { } enabled, but that would be
a tremendous goody from Scintilla v1.77.

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By: aathell

I agree with Jan; this is a benefit of updating to Sci 1.77 and should be taken
advantage of.

The question still remains as to which value to set it to. The Sci documentation
( http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaDoc.html#SCI_SETINDENTATIONGUIDES )

An extra attrib to the language node in the style xml with a default of SC_IV_REAL
if not set?

I played around with using the two new values on an xml and cpp doc; when the
value was set to SC_IV_LOOKFORWARD there was a noticeable lag in response time
after switching views, the lag was still there; but hardly noticeable when using
SC_IV_LOOKBOTH.

almostautomated

if anyone else wants to play with it:
line 299 of ScintillaEditView.h:
execute(SCI_SETINDENTATIONGUIDES,
(WPARAM)willBeShowed?(SC_IV_LOOKBOTH):(SC_IV_NONE));

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By: aathell

Just an FYI: The text area context menu is missing entries for the mark, case,
and comment entries.





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By: garycoast

Thanks for all your work Don. I love your program.

Compare plugin (1.5.1 not unicode) no longer works (and was reported to not
be working for (or since) n++ 5.3.1 either - ansi I presume).

Someone reported that the compare plugin works with 5.4rc unicode but I found
it does NOT work with 5.4rc ansi (see thread on Help forum).

I reported this:

I went ahead and installed N++ 5.4rc ansi and now compare 1.5.1 does not work
correctly - it finds a lot of the diffs but the two compare windows do not line
up side by side - and it fails to highlight sections missing altogether in one
file - and the windows/tabs now get rearranged so the starting left window is
on the right and vice-versa - to name some of what is peculiar


This sucks because the compare plugin is a necessary part of n++


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By: donho

Nice.
It'll be in v5.4 OR.

Don

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By: donho

Fixed.
It'll be in v5.4 OR.

Don

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And what about a full changelog? this way people can concentrate on the changes
and test them better :)

OK, here we go.

Notepad++ v5.4 new features and fixed bugs (from v5.3.1) :

1. Add theme selector to switch styles.xml on the fly, change styles.xml on
one click.
2. Add google chrome drag and derop tab feature : drag out tab to create a new
instance, transfer documents among several instances by drag and drop.
3. Add Mark all extension : user can mark any occurrence with 5 different colours.
4. Add new feature : column selection allows to insertion a string by typing
characters in sequence (w/o column mode editor).
5. Fixed crash bug : Double click a file associated with an older version of
Notepad++ while a newer version of Notepad++ instance is running.
6. Improve main menu structure (more compact). Language Menu can be compacted
as well (optional, in Preference dialog).
7. line numbers margin width is changed dynamically according to the needed
space (but keeping at least 3 digits).
8. File history list (under the File menu) is limited to 100 characters per
item. Longer file names are fitted to 100 characters by replacing path components
with ellipses.
9. Update Scintilla from v1.75 to v1.77.
10. Fixed two bugs when calculating the width of the TaskList (document list
when pressing ctrl+tab or right-click + mouse wheel.
11. Add an (hidden) option to make the "Filters" and "Directory" fields follow
the current opened document in "Find in files" dialog. The new parameters are
located in config.xml and are called: "fifFilterFollowsDoc" and "fifFolderFollowsDoc"
(set to "yes"/"no")
12. Add new command parameters : -c (column) -x et -y (startup position).
13. Remove change line marker which does not work correctly. Include ChangeMarkers
plugin instead.
14. Fix bug "Switch to found results window" command now switches back to the
current edit view if the focus is already on the found results.
15. Fix the search result inaccurate colorization bug.
16. Fix the Mark all in selection bug (while Find Replace Dialog loosing the
focus).
17. Add 2 plugins messages : NPPN_FILEBEFORELOAD and NPPN_FILELOADFAILED.
18. Fix New document not be switched while double clicking in Find in files
result panel.
19. Fix conversion min to Maj and Maj to min (or vice et versa) in column selection
bug.

Included plugins (Unicode):

1. TextFX v0.26
2. NppExec v0.3 RC1
3. Spell Checker v1.3.2
4. MIME Tools v1.5
5. FTP_synchronize v0.9.6
6. NppExport v0.2.8
7. Doc Monitor v2.2
8. NppNetNote v0.1
9. ChangeMarkers 1.1.0

Included plugins (ANSI):

1. TextFX v0.25
2. NppExec v0.3 RC1
3. Spell Checker v1.3.1
4. MIME Tools v1.5
5. FTP_synchronize v0.9.6
6. NppExport v0.2.8
7. Light Explorer v1.5
8. Doc Monitor v2.2
9. NppNetNote v0.1
10. ChangeMarkers 1.1.0


Don






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By: aathell

Fix patch email to Don for this one.

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By: aathell

I see you already committed this... :D

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By: aathell

I should say:

I emailed a patch to fix this issue to Don. :P

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By: hycmos

like every feature.

just one: my ContextMenu can not work.

<Item MenuEntryName="Edit" MenuItemName="Block toggle comment"/>

how to modify it?

BTW thank for the great work.

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By: im2crazy4u

"This sucks because the compare plugin is a necessary part of n++"

I've never used it. I would not call it necessary, although it is for you. ;)

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By: janschreiber

Maybe not necessary, but immensely useful for me. I confirm that it does not
work properly anymore. Tested with the Unicode version.

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By: drshelper

I dropped 5.4 on my Windows 7 beta system and I'm getting strange behavior.
I'm getting an error about a mouse hook problem and when I enter keystrokes
I get weird characters entered, like ACK.

No problems like these with 5.3.1,

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By: aathell

Hey! After all the discussion about this plugin I decided to take a look and
see what was wrong...

Why doesn't the cvs checkout of the project even come close to matching the
src.zip? Or am I checking out the wrong module? NppPlugins\Compare right?

almostautomated

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By: garycoast

also, I find the website here very confusing - there seems to be several ways
to find all the downloads/plugins - and just as many ways NOT to find/get the
plugins

not a complaint, just a fact

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The Edit menu is broken if an old localization file is used.
-----------------
Yep, not only the Edit menu, I have noticed some problems in the Search one
too (missed entries when used the localization file...).

I checked the Notepad++ source - the new menu-groups are in fact named popup
menu-items, which means that they have not resource identifiers (rsrc numbers).
Look e.g. for the "Copy to clipboard" one in the ".\PowerEditor\src\Notepad_plus.rc"
file.

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sorry, in the previous post I mean the"View" menu, not the "Search one" - when
I use my 5.3.1 Czech language file the "View -> Synchronize Horizontal Scrolling"
is gone...

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By: janschreiber

LOL, yes. Probably one of the most confusing places on the web. And the forum
software is terrible by today's standards.

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You are right, it's actually the View menu that's garbled.

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By: sharljimhtsin

great, wait for v5.4 release

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By: joergenr

Hi Localizers

This is what I found in version 5.4RC.
New strings:

<SubEntries>
<Item posX = "1" posY = "8" name = "Copy to clipboard"/>
<Item posX = "1" posY = "9" name = "Indent"/>
<Item posX = "1" posY = "10" name = "Convert case"/>
<Item posX = "1" posY = "11" name = "Line operations"/>
<Item posX = "1" posY = "12" name = "Comment/Uncomment"/>
<Item posX = "1" posY = "13" name = "Auto-completion"/>
<Item posX = "2" posY = "11" name = "Mark all"/>
<Item posX = "2" posY = "12" name = "Unmark all"/>
<Item posX = "3" posY = "4" name = "Show Symbol"/>
<Item posX = "3" posY = "6" name = "Move/Clone current document"/>
<Item posX = "3" posY = "16" name = "Collapse level"/>
<Item posX = "3" posY = "17" name = "Uncollapse level"/>
</SubEntries>

<Item id = "6507" name = "Make Language Menu compact"/>
<Item id = "2306" name = "Switch to theme : "/>Switch to theme :

<Item id = "43022" name = "Using 1st style"/>
<Item id = "43024" name = "Using 2nd style"/>
<Item id = "43026" name = "Using 3rd style"/>
<Item id = "43028" name = "Using 4th style"/>
<Item id = "43030" name = "Using 5th style"/>
<Item id = "43023" name = "Clear 1st style"/>
<Item id = "43025" name = "Clear 2nd style"/>
<Item id = "43027" name = "Clear 3rd style"/>
<Item id = "43029" name = "Clear 4th style"/>
<Item id = "43031" name = "Clear 5th style"/>
<Item id = "43032" name = "Clear all styles"/>

Removed string:

Item id = "6223"

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Thanks. I found one more SubEntry:

<Item posX = "3" posY = "5" name = "Zoom"/>

But still the translated item id no. 44036 is not visible in the "View" menu.
Also I have not found a way how to translate items in the "Run" menu (Launch
in Firefox, Launch in IE ...)

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Hi xm1

"<Item posX = "3" posY = "5" name = "Zoom"/>"
You are right. I haven't localized this string, because it's the same in English
and in Danish.
<Item id = "44036" name = "Synchronize Horizontal Scrolling"/>
You can change the items in the run menu in the shortcut mapper

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You can change the items in the run menu in the shortcut mapper
--------

Thanks again, I did not tried that before. Ok, so it is up to the user to set
that.

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Thanks a bunch, man! This time, the translation updates are really important.
If someone has an idea how the localization process can be coordinated better,
please tell us. It's absolutely not satisfactory the way it is now.

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By: xm1

At least Don could send us regular translators an e-mail notification when a
new RC version is ready for translation (not speaking about the updated English.xml
file, I understand, that he has a lot of other things to do).

Not every time I have time to check the Notepad++ forum for news. That way an
up-to-date translation will be always included in the final version installator
and the users will not complain about the "incomplete" translation...


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"Not every time I have time to check the Notepad++ forum for news."
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By: janschreiber

I doubt that Don has the time to manage a translator mailing list. That's not
trivial, because translators come and go, as in most projects.
But at least in those cases where an outdated translation file can cause severe
display problems, an updated english.xml should be made available as early as
possible. An untranslated item here and there is not a problem, but a garbled
menu _is_. Imagine this kind of problem affecting the file menu next time it
occurs! Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to be offensive or something,
but a GUI item that does not do what it says is a major catastrophe in my opinion,
especially when the average user has no clue why this strange behavior would
occur.
(It is not as bad as that in the present case, maybe I'm fussing too much about
it, but the same type of change in the file menu might end up destroying people's
files, that's no fun at all.)

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Still get the Find/Replace box transparency bug in Windows 7 as stated:
https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3201345&forum_id=331753

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FYI :
https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3255709&forum_id=558104

Don

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Don,

I found 2 minor issues with Notepad++ 5.4 unicode version (and prior releases
of unicode).

1). If I open a file with a '&' in the filename (for example: Test in S&I.txt),
the display name on the tab is missing & and the I is underlined. I know the
& usually represent to underline a character for a menu when coding, but this
shouldn't be shown that way for the filename in the tab caption.

2). I use a freeware printer called Bullzip PDF Printer. This printer can be
automated through code and can create a report file of the last print job which
is a standard text file. When I open it in N++, it's all a bunch of strange
characters. Yet if I open it in standard Windows Notepad it opens and looks
fine. I've tried seeing if I could change the file format encoding, but it
hasn't helped. Is there somewhere I can send you a copy of the file for
testing?

Thank you,

FGump

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AlmostAutomated,

You wrote:
"...
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"... Once this is established and we have provided the means by which community
members can help develop the wiki, we will turn our attention to a new forum.
...
Rest assured we will announce a plan fairly soon and when we do we will ask
for community feedback. "

Great, looking forward to it!

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By: donho
In the last few weeks, we have seen a number of announcements that will/could
influence
(1) The rapid adoption of IRC as a means of supporting developers,
(2) The sudden appearance of Idea Torrent,
IMO, these 3 arguments do not really affect the environment.
IRC and forum have the different audience, and idea Torrent is just another
feature request tracker - with a much more friendly look and feel, nothing more.

Regarding the 3rd argument, afaik, it'll take time for the new setup in
sourceforge.

So the design of forums of phpbb can be kept w/o taking account these 2
arguments.

Don

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Post by SourceForge.net
also, I find the website here very confusing - there seems to be several ways
to find all the downloads/plugins - and just as many ways NOT to find/get the
plugins
Post by SourceForge.net
not a complaint, just a fact
This is why Greg and I have been working on the newer wiki so that it becomes
a centralised information repository.

I think the list
at https://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/notepad-plus/index.php?title=Plugin_central
is complete as of today, but for the following issues:

1/ I didn't check all the current ANSI versions yet; some may well be inaccurate.
Unicode versions should be right.
2/ A couple plugins have been excluded because they were known to duplicate
a functionality that is now standard in NP++. Or some for which tests were announced,
then no release anouncemet.
3/ I had thought about putting external lexers in a distinct category, but will
probably recant. So, at least the KVS lexer by garthex is missing, will add
back today.

The organisation of the new wiki is still being discussed, and thee are still
areas with wide holes.

If anyone viewing that page notices an error or omission, then the wiki principle
applies: log on and correct it yourself. Copy and paste is the simplest way
to keep formatting consistent, unless you wish to change the format of course
:-)

I'll post this on the Plugin Development forum right away, in an exceptional
break to the good practice of avoiding cross posting.

CChris

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Edit: Plugin Central is to be found at

https://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/notepad-plus/index.php?title=Plugin_Centr
al

(Central replaced central)

CChris

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By: aathell

Chris,

IMO having a lang specific area for UDLs, ext lexers, and now even themes is
a great idea.

BTW:

3/ I had thought about putting external lexers in a distinct category, but will
probably recant. So, at least the KVS lexer by garthex is missing, will add
back today.

Incorrect attribution to garthex, should be almostautomated; and this lexer
needs updating for unicode.

almostautomated

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