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[notepad-plus - Plugin Development] New Explorer, Function List and HexEdit
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Hello Notepad++ Users:


Don published the Notepad++ 4.0 RC yesterday. With it comes the new Docking
Manager developed by me. My plugins uses this Docking Manager and it could be
used by each other plugin. Ask Don or me how to implement your plugin as a dockable
one.

How to use Docking Manager will be shown in the new screenshots that will be
published with the final release of 4.0.

With the new Docking Manager comes also the new complete diffrent Explorer
Plugin.


NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE
NOTE NOTE

This version (Explorer.dll v1.0) are only useable with ASCII systems.
Unicode systems are not correct supported. I try to update this until next
version.



Here the feature list of Explorer:

- Iconbar (forward, backward, new file/folder, find in files)
- Go to current file in explorer
- Seperate folder and file view
- Folder update in explorer and faves
- Sortable file view as List View (clumns: name, ext)
- Extension filter
- Create/delete/move/rename and copy of files/dirs
- Multiselection for open
- Context menu with
- New file...
- Find in files...
- Open
- Open in new instance
- Selected files names and include as text

Feature list for Favorites:

- Iconbar
- Seperate roots for folders, files and maybe internet links
- Naming and renaming for each item
- Grouping of items
- Session managment
- Open session (additional with add to current opened files)
- Create new session
- Renaming of sessions
- Using of Session Manager on menu selection "File->Save Session..."



As I described in subject, also a new version of Function List is published.
This new version 1.0 have small language support changes and also a own
Iconbar.

The HexEdit comes now with an own extension filter. You could define your own
extension
to use HexEdit Plugin automaticaly, when files are open with those extensions.
To use it, have a look into the Options menu.


Have fun
Jens



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It's possibile to see the extension in the explorer file list?

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Yes, it is!!! Look into the upper post, but here again:

- Sortable file view as List View (clumns: name, ext)

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Function list plugin needs for Search box...without Search it's pretty useless
thing

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I dont think so. You are the first user that think about that Function List
is useless. But I will consider your suggestion.


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Is it possible to show and hide the explorer by cliking on an arrow(like in
dreamweaver to have a larger space of work) ?

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I dont know dreamweaver, but in a later version or Notepad it will be possible
to toggle the docked windows to the side like .NET.


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Hello Jens, thank you for considering my suggestion abt QuickSearch box, it
really needed feature for, since functions list occupys 2 screen's height in
my source so I really need it for navigation.
Also could you please advise me, how can I avoid presents of sizeof() in function
list

I have the following code

#define SOME_NUM (sizeof(something) / \
sizeof(some_type))

and the belowest sizeof() appears in function list


Best regards,
Alexander

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Try to avoid newline in this case. If you type

#define SOME_NUM (sizeof(something) / sizeof(some_type))

this will help.


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Jens

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I have been waiting for this news for some time. Today, you have put a huge
smile on my face. I feel like a kid on Christmas.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Jens, newline is really needed here. To satisfy standarts each line should be
less than 100 characters.
Mentioned names is just an example.
Maybe there is some "exclude" or "ignore" can be used in User rules?

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I really liked the functionality of the Explorer plugin in 3.9, where the
"Favourites" menu was more like a project explorer, than a view of the whole
directory structure where my project is stored. I liked having the files shown
in the same place as the folders. I just liked how the old plugin worked, but
I also like the new ability to dock it. Is there anyway to get the old Explorer
plugin with the new dockable capabilities?

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Hello users,

RC 2 is available and also new plugins are available which fix a lot of issues.
Please download here the new files:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1654585&forum_id=331753

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Jens

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By: rocky_stone

I tried the Notepad++ v4.0 RC 2 and I want to say "Thanks a LOT Jens!".
You have done a great job for all of Notepad++ users! I'm especially happy with
the docking capability of the Explorer plugin and all of its new featues :)

Best Regards,
Rocky

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Hi, I found an issue with Explorer plugin and I post it here, because I'm not
sure if plugins bugs should be in the bugtracker (also I hope it might get fixed
in the official release):

OS is Windows XP SP2, Notepad++ 4.0 RC2

When I do the steps below, Notepad++ crashes with the following crashinfo:
AppName: notepad++.exe AppVer: 4.0.0.0 ModName: explorer.dll
ModVer: 1.0.0.0 Offset: 00002f82
This reproduces every time for me.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Create a Folder Link in Favourites (Name: 'Install', Link: 'C:\Install')
2. Doubleclick the link - you are directed to Explorer pane and C:\Install dierctory
is selected
3. Right click any item in lower Explorer pane - Notepadd++ creshes (consequently
any changes done are lost)

If I first click somewhere in upper pane (i.e. the dierctory tree) everting
is fine and the context menu is shown, when item in lower pane (i.e. directory
contents) is right click-ed.

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Rocky

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Yes, you are right. Thanks a lot.

Best Regards
Jens

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By: creativ82

First off, thanks a bunch for getting the Explorer plugin docked. I've wanted
that for a long time and it's great to see it there. Nice improvements on it
too. There are just a few things that could be improved:

- Enable cleartype on the text (it looks strange when that text is the only
non-cleartype text on the screen)

- Remove the square brackets from directory names. The icons should be enough
of an indicator. Brackets makes it difficult to read

- Show the extension with the file name so it's the real name of the file instead
of in a separate column. The separate column is handy for sorting and keeping
it would be fine but please show the extension as part of the file name. If,
for example I have multiple files with the same name but different extensions,
it's very difficult to tell which is which without the extension part of the
file name. Maybe the "Ext" column could be changed to "Type" like in Windows
Explorer and say the full type of file, such as "File folder" and "PHP File"
instead of "<DIR>" and "php." This would be easier to read and a little
friendlier.

- Show file structure like Windows Explorer does, with My Documents as a root
folder. Drilling down to it from the C drive takes a long time and setting a
favorite location is nice, but not the best solution

- (Minor) Use folder icons as assigned by users. For example, I changed my folder
icons to something other than the yellow folders but Notepad++ still shows the
yellow folders. It would be nice to see the ones I assigned.

Ultimately, I love that the feature has been added and is dockable now. That's
wonderful. However, I'd love it even more if it could mimic the native Windows
Explorer behavior as much as possible since that's what is most familiar when
using Windows.

It's getting there! Keep up the great work.

Nick

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Another feature that would make it a little more usable: hover states. For example,
in Windows Explorer, when the cursor hovers over the directories in the left
side tree view, they turn a light grey and are underlined. That would be very
useful if it were added to the Explorer plugin so I know what I'll be clicking
on.

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I dont want to implement this, because this feature has a different meaning
to the current implementation. Currently you have to double click. Hovering
with underlined blue, green or whatever - depending on your windows style -
means one click hyperlink.


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You make a good point. How about making the text grey a little but no underline?

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Hi Nick,
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First off, thanks a bunch for getting the Explorer plugin docked. I've wanted
that for a
long time and it's great to see it there. Nice improvements on it too.

Thanks, it was a hard work to implement. But I liked to implement.
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Enable cleartype on the text (it looks strange when that text is the only
non-cleartype
text on the screen)

Question here: The complete plugin has some strange effects or only one part?
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Remove the square brackets from directory names. The icons should be enough
of an
indicator. Brackets makes it difficult to read

No. This will stay. I don't think that the icon is enough.
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Show the extension with the file name so it's the real name of the file instead
of in a
separate column. The separate column is handy for sorting and keeping it would
be fine but
please show the extension as part of the file name. If, for example I have
multiple files
with the same name but different extensions, it's very difficult to tell which
is which
without the extension part of the file name. Maybe the "Ext" column could
be changed to
"Type" like in Windows Explorer and say the full type of file, such as "File
folder" and
"PHP File" instead of "<DIR>" and "php." This would be easier to read and
a little
friendlier.

I change the behaviour in later versions. But at the moment this should
be enough.
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Show file structure like Windows Explorer does, with My Documents as a root
folder.
Drilling down to it from the C drive takes a long time and setting a favorite
location is
nice, but not the best solution

I dont like this idea. This is not the windows explorer, this is a Notepad explorer.
The only
thing that I could imagine, is to implement shortcuts for folder in explorer
when it's
focused.
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- (Minor) Use folder icons as assigned by users. For example, I changed my
folder icons to something other than the yellow folders but Notepad++ still
shows the yellow folders. It would be nice to see the ones I assigned.

I dont know, it should work. But I will have a look why not.
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Ultimately, I love that the feature has been added and is dockable now. That's
wonderful.
However, I'd love it even more if it could mimic the native Windows Explorer
behavior as
much as possible since that's what is most familiar when using Windows.
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It's getting there! Keep up the great work.
Thanks for your comments
Jens

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Question here: The complete plugin has some strange effects or only
one part?

All text in the Explorer area is not smooth like the rest of the interface.
ClearType isn't applied to it.
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No. This will stay. I don't think that the icon is enough.
It might be nice to hear others' thoughts on this too. Placing brackets around
the names is very difficult to read and scanning a list isn't as quick anymore.
All interfaces within Windows don't have brackets. Adding them breaks consistency
within Windows. The icon is right next to the words. Unless a user specifically
configures all files and folders to have the same or no icons, brackets aren't
needed and icons work well by themselves.
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I change the behaviour in later versions. But at the moment this should be
enough.

I look forward to this change. Thanks for planning to implement it.
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I dont like this idea. This is not the windows explorer, this is a Notepad
explorer. The only thing that I could imagine, is to implement shortcuts for
folder in explorer when it's focused.

I agree, this is Notepad's explorer, but the program is used in a Windows
environment, therefore it would be easier to use if it used the system's native
file browsing format. It's disorienting to use two methods of browsing. For
example, if someone saved a file in My Documents, they would know that My Documents
is always near the "top" (root) of the tree and it's easy to find quickly versus
knowing that it is in C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\My Documents. That's
three additional levels and not consistent with Windows Explorer. I highly recommend
that you stay as consistent with Windows Explorer as possible because that interface
is used throughout the operating system. Why deviate?


Nick

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Jens
Nicholas Rougeux (creativ82)
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Question here: The complete plugin has some strange effects or only one
part?
All text in the Explorer area is not smooth like the rest of the interface.
ClearType isn't applied to it.

I'm seeing the same here.

My € 0,02: this might be because the font 'MS Sans Serif' is being used. There's
an identical font 'Microsoft Sans Serif' (I kid you not) that looks exactly
the same, except that that _is_ ClearType-enabled. Of course, it would seem
even better to me if the system's default font was being used.
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No. This will stay. I don't think that the icon is enough.
In this matter, personally, I don't care one way or another: for me the icons
would be sufficient, especially since the folders are already grouped at the
top of the list, but I don't mind the brackets either. Kinda reminds me of
the old DOS days... :-)

I'd rather have the filename's extension attached, but as Jens is planning to
implement that already, I'm happy with the NppExplorer as it is. :-)

Thanks a bunch!

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Hello again,
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All text in the Explorer area is not smooth like the rest of the interface.
ClearType isn't applied to it.

More questions to clarify this:

- Does it take to all plugins?

- Did you mean that there is a difference between the font in edit area and
the font of plugins?

- Could you send me a screenshot?


Best Regards
Jens

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Hi,
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In this matter, personally, I don't care one way or another: for me the icons
would be sufficient, especially since the folders are already grouped at the
top of the list, but I don't mind the brackets either. Kinda reminds me of the
old DOS days... :-)

This are two reasons to take the tree and the list at it is!
Many people uses the good old W98 ME or less version of windows. Here I couldn't
implement the NT tree view.

BTW: Shortcuts, or better an additional "shortcut" menu in the context menu
will do the same.
Fast selection of folders. Here I could implement preselected folders like "My
documents".


Best Regards
Jens

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By: vor0nwe

I've uploaded a screenshot to illustrate what I see, perhaps Nicholas could
do that as well...

Loading Image...


Notice that the title, menu, tab, editor all have smoothed fonts. Even the title
caption of the Explorer is smoothed! Just not the contents of the Explorer,
those letters are all jagged.

I've checked, and it's only the explorer and the favorites. The function list
does use a proper font, with ClearType.


The only other window I can find that has a bitmap font (i.e. non-ClearTypeable)
is the grid of the Shortcut Mapper:

Loading Image...

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Martijn's screenshots match my experience. Thanks for posting them.

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A little while ago, while searching for new text editors, I came across PSPad
(http://www.pspad.com/en/screenshot.htm). While this program has almost too
many features, it has a file explorer that displays exactly what I'm trying
to describe. It uses the tree, icons, and file structure native to Windows,
rather than trying to create something new. I much prefer Notepad++ because
it's more lightweight and manageable but it would be great if Notepad++ could
have its Explorer plugin act like PSPad's.

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I don't know where your problem is? It is simular to it. Very simular! What
do you missing?

Best Regards
Jens

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I found a missmatch in my project. I use the wrong font in dialog resource.
It will be changed in next version of explorer. I will publish it asap. It will
contain:

- bug fix on clicking favorites folder when explorer is not opened
- it will be possible to set options for:
- folder names without []
- long file information
- view size in b|kB|dynamic in x b/k/M|dynamic in x.x b/k/M
- last modified
- save sorting on close
- switch between extension direct attached on filename and seperated in an
own column

Also it will be possible with a patch of Notepad++ to see different layout when
docked
to left/right or top/bottom.


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Jens

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To have a quick (and dirty) fix on the font issue, you can do the following:
- quit Notepad++ (if still running);
- backup (make a copy) of your existing explorer.dll;
- download Resource Hacker from http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/;
- extract the reshack.zip and launch ResHacker.exe;
- from Resource Hacker, open the explorer.dll;
- open (click on the [+] symbol) the Dialog node and followed by the 30500 node
and click on 1031. You then can see some text appear on the right-pane;
- on the line "FONT 8, ...", change the font name to the one that you want to
use and then click on the Compile Script button;
- do the same for 30600, 30610 and 30650 nodes;
- save the changes by clicking on File -> Save;
- launch your Notepad++.

Can't guarantee it will work for you, but it does for me.

Nicholas

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It works for me as well. Moreover, it turns out that Notepad++ also has a few
dialogs with the wrong font; I've changed them all to MS Shell Dlg, which apparently
sets the font defined by the system settings.
I couldn't find the Shortcut Mapper in the dialog resources, however.

Thanks a lot Nicholas for sharing that with us!

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Yes, it's very similar and that's great but the file structure is the primary
difference. It uses the same structure as Windows Explorer, allowing users to
choose the "My Documents" directory from the root instead of forcing them to
drill down into C:\Documents and Settings\[owner]\My Documents. Much easier
and faster. Plus, as an added bonus, it uses all icons from the system if they've
been changed. (This relates to my earlier comment about how I changed my folder
icons to something else.)

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Thanks for outlining the things you plan to change in Explorer. Looks like a
great list. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to do those. This program
and plugin are getting better and better every day!

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The crashing issue under w98 is fixed.
I'll send you the binary to test.
Please let me know if it works now.

Don

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Berlin, Samstag d. 3. Februar 2007, 11h38'

Hallo Don -

thanks tremendously for the new binary you sent to me per eMail yesterday.

It is now working perfectly in my Windows98-System, no crashes anymore.

If anybody is interested, my installation procedure was:

1. Uninstall version 3.9
2. Install npp.4.0.Installer.exe

( - n o t marking "Don't use %APPDATA%"
- n o t marking Function List Plugin because if you install this plugin
it seems you can't teach the program permanently not to start with it's [in
Win98] functionless additional Window
- n o t marking "as default html-viewer")
3. Replace notepad++.exe 778.240 27.01.07 19:00
by notepad++.exe 778.240 01.02.07 20:03

Kind regards
Klaus


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Hi,

first of all congratulations for the great work on version 4.x

I am trying to develop a dockable plugin in C++. ¿Is there an example that
could get me started?

Thank you.


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Yes, I will send you my sources of Function List. Contact me via mail. What
would you like to develope?

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Hi Jens,

You Explorer is just perfect, but I would like to know if it is possible to
improve it a little more. I use a lot FTP site because i love the web :)

Is it possible to link my FTP into the explorer so I can click on the files
and it appears in my editor ?

I ask that because I have to copy paste the files in a new folder on my desktop
and then when i have finish editing them copy and paste back to the ftp.

Thx for your answer and great explorer again! ;)

Max

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Hi there again Jens!

I found the solution using NetDrive and mapping my ftp as a drive. But it be
great to have it integrated in npp if it's possible!

Thx,

Max

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Currently, a codeveloper implements FTP in explorer plugin. But I promise you
nothing.

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<quote>
I really liked the functionality of the Explorer plugin in 3.9, where the
"Favourites" menu was more like a project explorer, than a view of the whole
directory structure where my project is stored. I liked having the files shown
in the same place as the folders. I just liked how the old plugin worked, but
I also like the new ability to dock it. Is there anyway to get he old Explorer
plugin with the new dockable capabilities?
</quote>

I totally agree on this one.

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I am Very Disapointed with the Non-Dockable File Explorer. Is there any plans
to make it Dockable.

Thanks
Sunil Kumar
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Due to the focus problem of Notepad, which was caused by the latest explorer
version, explorer plugin was removed from the install routine. Please be patient.
New version comes asap.


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I wouldn't say it's useless without it but searching would be a very nice feature
to have

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I really like the explorer plugin, but I think it would be a great improvement
to have the ability to set a "Project folder", so that it only shows that folder.
A bit like this:
------------------

+ <project folder>
+ <dir>
file.ext
file2.ext
+ <dir>

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Best Regards
Niek

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Project plugin/ project window will be available in future.


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The extension filter is very useful.
It seems that the filter function doesnt support the regular expression.
So how could I filter ".txt" and ".java" at the same time?
Thank you?

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You could select more regular expressions with ";".

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Sorry, I typed stupid things today ;). Seperate with ";" your filters. E.g.:

"*.txt ; *.java"

There is no need for spaces.


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