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[notepad-plus - Open Discussion] Notepad++ v4.0 RC 2
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2007-01-20 02:17:13 UTC
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By: donho

Here's the Notepad++ v4.0 Release Candidate 2 :
http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/commun/misc/npp.v40.RC2.zip

Please test it and let me know if there's any problem.

The v4.0 official release will be released in 4 days if there's no critical
bug.

Don

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By: donho

I forgot to mention it :
Please unzip all files into a *clean* folder (ie. a just created directory without
old notepad++ files inside).

Don

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By: nobody

Just tried this.

When closing the directory explorer panel, "plugins -> explore -> view exlorer"
is still checked. You then have to uncheck it and recheck it to get the explorer
back.

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By: nobody

I found a problem but I'm not able to explain. I speak little english.
I can see you :)
http://www.visubox.com/box/tab-problem.swf


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By: donho

I'll try to fix this, but not in v4.0 OR.

Don

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2007-01-20 19:39:49 UTC
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By: nobody

Hello Don,

At least 1 bug about "ctrl + L" and "cntl + shift + L" was fixed (now I can
see them in the list), thank you very much!

One thing, that can be in 4.0 R:
1) "Bookmark's line background colour" in global styles - marked lines not only
recognized by the yellow cycle (style defined in "Mark colour"), but by the
lines' backgound colour too! I would be very nice!

1 crash:
hmmm... n++ doesn't crashes anymore(!), when I press mouse right button in files
list in "Explorer" plugin...
did you fix this bug?

Eugene

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2007-01-21 02:20:19 UTC
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"Bookmark's line background colour" in global styles -
marked lines not only recognized by the yellow cycle
(style defined in "Mark colour"), but by the lines' backgound colour too!
I won't work on this feature.
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n++ doesn't crashes anymore(!), when I press mouse right button in files list
in "Explorer" plugin...
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did you fix this bug?
No. Jens did.

Don

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2007-01-21 04:04:40 UTC
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By: nobody

Jens,
The sorting done in the functions' list still does not sort properly functions
with lowercase. I did post before a sample of my php functions. Here it
is again:

<?php


class Process {

function Array_Analayser ($array) {

}//*****************************************************************
**********************

function Drop_Down_Menue ($active_fields, $selected_fields, $Table_Name,
$css) {

}//*****************************************************************
************************

function Multiple_Radio_Buttons ($active_fields, $selected_fields,
$Table_Name,$style) {

}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function Retrive_Active_Fields ($table, $table_name_variable) {

}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function Exception_Output($table, $N,$table_name_var, $exception)
{

}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function Array_Output_inTable_Format($table, $search_res, $N, $id,
$class1, $class2, $hrefid, $banner,$table_name_var){

}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function retrieve_proper_result_format ($table, $array, $array2){


}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function Processing_Image ($file) {

}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function get_sizes($src_w, $src_h, $dst_w,$dst_h ){


}/*****************************************************************/

function Searchme ($posted, $table_name, $table_name_variable,$to_select,
$offset, $limit, $order_by, $and) {


}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function Select_Drop_radio ($table_name, $id, $array_table){


}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function Delet_Entries ($table_name, $field_name, $id){

}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function update_Insert ($posted, $table_name, $table_name_var){


}//*****************************************************************
**************************************

function Retrieve_Table_fields ($table_name){

}//*****************************************************************
************************

function Date() {


}

function LocaleTime(){

}
function main_First($id,$table,$table_var,$img_path,$comment,$H){


}
function first ($table, $table_var, $img_name, $comment,
$category,$form_name){

}

function Sorting_Dates($_POST){
}

}/**************End of class***************************/

$process= new Process;
?>

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By: codenexus

Still unexpected results when trying to record macro involving TextFX.

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Still unexpected results when trying to record macro involving TextFX.
Would you be specific? An example macro would probably suffice.

Regards.
Greg

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That link gives real problems in trying to download - many tries later, and
it only gets to a few %, and then stalls.
Perhaps it is too-low a link bandwidth for the number of downloaders ?
Anyone else have stall issues with this link ?

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By: donho

The record macro doesn't include the plugins commands.

Don

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"Bookmark's line background colour" in global styles -
marked lines not only recognized by the yellow cycle
(style defined in "Mark colour"), but by the lines' backgound colour too!
I won't work on this feature.
=((
I thought, I isn't difficult to do, but ofcource it's up to you.


Don, can you add "\" and "/" to "shortcut" list in "Shortcut Mapper..."? Simply
to be able to assign "ctrl + \" to some action...


Eugene

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2007-01-21 15:20:30 UTC
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Because of explorer crash in precious RC this is the first time I've been able
to look at it.
In the Explorer and Favorites panels I get the most bizarre and random icons
attached to items, including folders. Shut down Notepad++ and the icons sometimes
change. The choice of icons is totally unrelated to the extension or type, most
folders show as folders but Documents and Settings always has a file icon which
is different every time, for instance. In Favorites most of my files are showing
with folder icons.

The split between the disk drives and folders/files panels is only saved when
Notepad++ is closed with them showing. If Favorites is showing then the next
time I start up Notepad++ the folders/files panels is almost reduced to nothing.


Mark B

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By: donho

Your OS is w2k, right?

Don

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By: bullock

Is it sufficient to have the plugin interface functions within N++ call the
macro-recording function where appropriate?

Greg

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2007-01-21 20:00:45 UTC
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Hi,
The launch of npp is sometime very slow (more than 30s) (XP 64bit) even with
the "don't check at runtime" option checked.
Is it possible to download the scr and pdb files to debug the pb?
thanks a lot for this tools.

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RC2 loaded and started OK (fresh DIR), after some download stalls.

"In the Explorer and Favorites panels I get the most bizarre and random icons
attached to items, including folders. Shut down Notepad++ and the icons sometimes
change."

I also see this, and yes, my OS is (also?) Win2k

Other comments on the explorer:

The top folders list seems to be time-sorted?,whilst my system is set to
alphabetical-sort. - Very confusing to the point of unusable.
I can't see any way to chage the sort ?

However, when I get folders on bottom pane, that IS alphabetical-sort.
-- well, actually _almost_ alphabetical-sorted ! - there is a wee ops-bug where
the
VERY FIRST folder name is out of order, rest seem OK :)
- and that very first folder name, happens to be the first (time-sorted?) in
the top window. [ does this fail only on the lowest root level ? ]

I also closed the Explorer, via the [x], but could then find no way to reopen
it - nothing under View, and nothing on the icons - how is this re-enabled ?

Sometimes, on first startup, the bottom explorer pane is blank, but it seems
bi-stable in nature, and mostly it shows the alphabetical-sorted tree of the
top window highlighted, which I figure is the normal/expected operation.

The Explorer.filter option looks great!!, be nice to be able to use that.

Session save/load seems to not remember the Explorer settings ? - is it meant
to ?
- to me that would be expected ?



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Hi, Don:

How can I set a shortcut to the function "Reload from Disk"? I didnt find it
in the Shortcut Mapper.

Thanks in advance.

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I also closed the Explorer, via the [x], but could then find no way to reopen
it - nothing under View, and nothing on the icons - how is this re-enabled ?
I just downloaded and did a real quick exploration of RC2 and also found this
buglet. However, I found that you can go to Plugins->Explorer and then click
on Explorer to uncheck it then do it again to check it and the Explorer pane
reopens. I've not been able to get either the Explorer or Favorites hand-twister
keyboard shortcuts to work - pressing ctrl+alt+shift+e just made my hand sore,
it did not open or close the Explorer pane/side panel at all. This on Win XP
Pro w/ sp2. I downloaded the zip, then unzipped the package into a new clean
directory as per the instructions. Anything else I should be doing?




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Hi,
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"In the Explorer and Favorites panels I get the most bizarre and random icons
attached >> to items, including folders. Shut down Notepad++ and the icons sometimes
change."
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I also see this, and yes, my OS is (also?) Win2k
I know about the problems on W2k. But I have no idea to find a solution for
that. The problem is that on W2k and previous systems the icon loading have
different results. If anyone could help me regarding it, he his welcome.
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The top folders list seems to be time-sorted?,whilst my system is set to
alphabetical-sort. - Very confusing to the point of unusable.
I can't see any way to chage the sort ?
Here I notice that only on Don's screenshot the first time. But this behaviour
is more strange than the icon behaviour. The biggest problem is, I have no W2k
and to fix it is for me big problem.
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I also closed the Explorer, via the [x], but could then find no way to reopen
it - nothing under View, and nothing on the icons - how is this re-enabled
?
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Sometimes, on first startup, the bottom explorer pane is blank, but it seems
bi-stable in nature, and mostly it shows the alphabetical-sorted tree of
the
Post by SourceForge.net
top window highlighted, which I figure is the normal/expected operation.
Interesting, but as I said: I have no W2k and therefore a big problem to reproduce
it.
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The Explorer.filter option looks great!!, be nice to be able to use that.
Thanks
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Session save/load seems to not remember the Explorer settings ? - is it meant
to ?
Post by SourceForge.net
- to me that would be expected ?
Only the latest folder should be recognised.


Best Regards
Jens

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Did you have the explorer open? Did you have external mounted devices? Do you
have this device selected on closing? Could you answere all this questions with
"Yes", this is the reason for slow startup.


Best Regards
Jens

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npp is an open-source project. Go to "download" section and it will be there.

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Did you have the explorer open?
yes
Did you have external mounted devices?
yes
Do you have this device selected on closing?
no
Could you answere all this questions with "Yes", this is the reason for slow
startup.
no, but if I close the explorer view, the startup launch time is correct,
thanks



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By: jasperlotus

I suggest that Notepad++ should support Unicode on its interface! I cannot enter
Unicode phrases in Search/Replace dialog, for example ``Soạn thảo''.

Type the phrase above in a blank document [UTF-8 without BOM], the phrase becomes:
``So th?o''! This is a bug I found from 3.8 ver. . The ạn disappear!!!

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Hi,

I test the sorting here on my plugin. Following result happens:

Array_Analayser
Array_Output_inTable_Format
Date
Delet_Entries
Drop_Down_Menue
Exception_Output
LocaleTime
Multiple_Radio_Buttons
Processing_Image
Retrieve_Table_fields
Retrive_Active_Fields
Searchme
Select_Drop_radio
Sorting_Dates
first
get_sizes
main_First
retrieve_proper_result_format
update_Insert


For me it works.


Best Regards
Jens

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Hi again,
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I also closed the Explorer, via the [x], but could then find no way to reopen
it - nothing under View, and nothing on the icons - how is this re-enabled
?

This is a bug on my side. It will be removed on final release.

Jens

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I don't think it's a good idea to assign a shortcut to this command.

Don

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Auto indent not work with C/C++&C#!!!

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No GUI unless I remove Explorer.dll from plugins directory.

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Yes I should have mentioned that, sorry for delay, been ill.
Mark B

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Hello Don,
When I'm editing C file ( size is about 1,5 Mb) NP++ is hanging for a some time.
This happens due to the syntax highlighting reparsing in real time. Is it possible
to add some timeout to prevent re-parsing in real time? I think re-parsing should
be perforemed after some Idle. On my computer PIV 3.04 HT and 512RAM NP++ is
pretty uncomfortable editor because of this issue.

Best regards,
Alexander

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By: bsdz

This release candidate crashes if you try opening a file that has 80 characters
in its name. I.e. opening a file called
"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
will crash notepad++.

Kind regards
Blair

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Hello guys!
I like you work very much, you are the best.
Notepad++ is my only love editor.
I have downloaded last RC version. And I have 2 problems.

1)How can I disable auto-adding )]}?
There is option here: TextFX->TextFX Settings->Autoclose )]}. It is uncheked,
however I have autofinishing. And when I check it, I have another one )]}. This
mean when I print "(" I have "())". How can I fix it or it is a problem of editor?
I don`t use autofinish..

2)And second one.
I have php extension file called test.php (created in Notepad++).
Content of file is next (I have more complex file, but I simplify it and problem
is still there):
<?
//src image
$im=imagecreatefromjpeg("sample3.jpg");
?>
When I open this file in Notepad++ I don`t see code highlight. Then I delete
comment and CRLF before it and code becomes normal highlighted. I can return
comment pressing CTRL+Z and code also normal highlighted.

I am sorry for my bad English, I hope you understand me.
Great thanks yo all you - you are the best! ;)

Regards.
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The loading of the docked explorer is extremelly slow.

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Therefore switch off ;). Its an explorer and I try to support the shell icons.
Loading of shell icons takes time - extremly on external devices.

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I currently use the Explorer plugin with NP++ ver 3.9 and am very pleased.
The Explorer window remembers its location and opens automatically with NP++
(if it was open when NP++ was last closed). Anyway, it opens up instantly,
no delay regardless if external devices are loaded in the directory tree. My
question is, now that Explorer is integrated into NP++ 4.0 (specifically this
RC2 version), why has the performance become so poor? Is it only the loading
of the shell icons you mentioned? If so, can this be removed or at least optionally
disabled? Something has changed to make the Explorer plugin much less usable
and effectively crippling NP++...my question is basically "Is that change, whatever
it was, necessary?"

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Shell icons were often requested and for me this is a reason to provide it.
I dont know your OS system, but normaly it doesn't take much time.


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WinXP (fully patched/updated), 2.8GHz Pentium dual, 2 Gig RAM. Load time of
NP++ is over 60 seconds due to Explorer and because the PC has 4 mapped drives
to network servers and one USB external drive. Disconnecting the USB external
drive results in about a 50 second startup time for NP++. Disconnecting all
mapped network drives results in a 10 second startup time. And, obviously,
disabling Explorer completely results in NP++ startup less than 1 second.

I can actually disconnect all my network mapped drives, start NP++, re-attach
to my mapped drives in 45 seconds...FASTER than NP++ will start on its own because
of (I assume) the shell icons. I too would vote for the option to disable this
function via setting, regain the performance of the "old" Explorer...which was
superb IMHO. I realize I can simply disable the Explorer function in the new
release, but it is disappointing to lose the functionality and performance that
was previously available.

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Ok, 60 seconds is very slow! At best you contact me via mail and we will try
to find out the problem. With a remote session.

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About long-time loading.
Some advice: use separate thread to load icons into explorer. This is normal
practice and works pretty fast.

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Regarding the performance issue:

I created a new binary. But there is one pb. The interface of Notepad will changed
a little bit in final release. However, this version of explorer will not work
with the current RC version of Notepad. Please contact me via mail to get all
new files.


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Just to complete the information : it's about Explorer plugin performance issue.
If you have such problem, please help us to test the improved version.

Don

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Don,
can I expect any update about reparsing perfomance issue?
I think since it's basic functionality's issue then it should have higher priority
than plugins issues.

Thanks,
Alexander

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Hello Alexander,

parsing to highlight the code is done by scintilla. And when somebody has to
fix it, then it's up to Don. If you read the above posts you see, that there
are problem on startup regarding the explorer and this is my plugin and my issue.
I try to fix it, because I think that many users wants to have explorer on startup!
Therefore the priority is the same for me.


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Jens

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Please add the escape key for immediate exiting. Sometimes I just want to take
a quick peek in a file and exit right away, but then if I change the file I
get a confirmation window after selecting the exit option through the menu,
and that's a bit annoying. Thanks. Carlos

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There is a simple shortut... Alt+F4... Works on pretty much every windows
application. :)

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Hi!
When will you be able to release final version of NP++ 4.0? Are there still
critical bugs left? Will there be an "automatic autocomplete-feature", as mentioned
in the forum?

Thanks,

Dom.

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Ok, I got it - thank you for clarifications, Jens.
Eh...I was suspecting that it's scintilla's functionality, but I hoped that
you have some interfaces to control it.
All I need is just a small timeout after keypress to start delayed reparsing
of code...
It's so pity that I can use np++ only as viewer and not as editor due to this
performance issue :(

Best regards,
Alexader

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I've had 4.0 crash on two different occassions when using ctrl + z... I have
not been able to reproduce the error but I'll let you know if I can.

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Is 4.0 released?? On the Download section there's a 4.0 binary (however there's
no source or installer)!! :S

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Yeah, what about the final 4.0 release? No installer, only a binary...is 4.0
ready now??

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Will be done on this evening by Don.

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keeping a close watch for the release.

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Me too!

Don and co. (especially Jens from what I can tell) Thank you for all your hard
work.. You make my life so much easier!

One huge feature I just noticed when editing a PHP file is the "get PHP help
Alt+F1" under the Run menu. I will be making so much use of that!

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evening has passed, new day here. no release or is it delayed more?

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http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_12996935.html#

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Hi, Notepad++ v4.0 is not compatible with OpenCtags plugin:

psapi.dll says:
Missing "SetInfo" function.
This plugin is not compatible with current version of Notepad++.

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There's a small problem regarding Explorer.dll, the v4.0 release will delay
a little bit.
I wait for Jens to solve this problem together, so be patient.

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This release contains a small flaw in Explorer plugin, so I removed it from
SourceForge.

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Hello,

One bad thing about Explorer plugin:

why "enter" behaves like "back" (it sometimes make me nervous)??? It should
behave like "open", I think...
Jens, can you do it optionaly, t.i how it reacts (behaves) on "enter"?

Best regards,
Alex

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Jens,
scintilla 172 is out. Is it any way to verify performance issue using it?

Alexandr

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I remove from session.xml file all files with long names and start np++ without
any problems. I think that problem occurs with length of tabs.
regards,
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